I was interested to get started with a few good Utility White King pigeons, and yours seem quite good. Would you have any for sale within the next year, or if not, I was wondering if you can refer me to someone who sells good ones. I have quality utility white king pairs available email jameskchandler yahoo.
The Duchesse pigeon is the Italian Romagnol Romagnolo pigeon. It is kept in Italy and France and comes in many colors. Go to Youtube: Romagnolo pigeons and you will see the videos. The squab industry in the early part of the 's is responsible for the gradual disappearance of the Duchesse and the colored Duchesse, also the colored Swiss Mondaines. This was due primary of squab producers getting more money for white skin squabs from white feather birds.
In my opinion, this hurt these pigeon breeds from being widely bred in America later in the 20th century and now. A little more about the Duchesse As stated in the original article about the Duchesse was done away with in the squab industry due to it having feather feet or muff footed. My Utility Pigeons. The latter is now a very rare breed, which fell out of favor as a utility breed around due to its muffed legs. Unlike many breeders, I have never had any interest in showing these breeds, hence they are bred strictly for meat purposes.
James of Houston, Texas starting in It was the first breed of pigeon that was specifically bred for Auto-Sexing purposes, which is to say that the pigeons could be easily sexed by sight just because of their color.
This is due to the Faded gene, which produces light colored cocks which are short downed when they are hatched and darker colored hens which have long down when hatched. The breed received official recognition by the National Pigeon Association in and its first organized specialty breed club was established in James also sought to create a breed that was fast producing and yielded plump breasted squabs with an exceptionally high dress out weight compared to live weight.
In addition to pure Pioneers, I also keep a few King X Pioneer crosses which produce some really nice squabs. While the Pioneers produce some pretty good sized squabs and they tend to be uniform, they have in no way kept up with the production of my Utility Kings. Not only do they not breed as rapidly, but fertility has been an issue.
White Utility King cock Utility Kings. Ultimately, both the large volume squab buyers, as well as the housewife preferred squabs with a light skin and regarded them as more appetizing in appearance. To some extent, this was also true of. Ash Red Barred Utility King. In those days, killed squabs were sold and shipped with head and feet still attached.
Strangely enough, Cream Bars and Yellows also died out, even although these two colors actually produced some of the most attractive dressed squabs due to having a somewhat golden skin color.
The Utility King, as a pigeon breed, actually has a very diverse origin. White Kings and Silver Kings actually arose independently in the lofts of at least two different breeders around the turn of the 19th century.
For a good many years, almost any large white pigeon used for squabbing purposes was regarded as a White King, quite regardless of its actual origin.
That being said, most authorities on this breed recognize Mr. Baker wanted a large pigeon that produced uniform squabs in large numbers. As he wanted light skinned squabs, he used only white birds and crossed together White Racing Homers for their vitality and rapid breeding ability, White Maltese for their body type and a White Mondain likely the Duchesse for size.
ByMr. Baker had seen enough progress that he chose the name "King" for his new breed. However, byMr. Through their advertisements, they made the White King one of the most sought after pigeon breeds in the world.Forums New posts Search forums. Articles New articles New comments Series Search articles.
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Maybe their less no-butcher?? I love them. Big, meaty birds. Beautiful, simple. But I have a few questions - What age do you butcher? Once weaned or? What is the average butcher weight? How would you know, at such a young age, if they'd be better off as lunch then a breeder?
His birds are 2 colors - white and black. He has a few that were black, and then their flights turned white. They tend to throw a lot of white squabs, but no splash.The following pigeon breeders directory is designed to help breeders in the United States to find other breeders and their breeds.
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Russian Tumblers.Species group: Domestic Fancy Pigeons. This impressively chunky pigeon started out as an excellent utility pigeon that was raised for food — the fast-growing baby squabs. However, today these handsome birds are also bred for the show bench. There is some dispute about which birds are true French Mondains, so if you are planning to show your birds, it is important to educate yourself about your club's standards.
There is a similar variety that is very popular in America, the Swiss Mondain. Know what you have, to avoid being disqualified.
The early food pigeons of France in medieval times were expected to free fly from the dovecotes in search of their own food — a far cry from their pampered descendants, the French Mondain Pigeon. Appearance: A large, impressive, well-rounded pigeon. Show French Mondains have a distinctive profile, since if you look at them head-on, they are very broad and boxy looking. Yet if you look down on them from above, they have a tapered look from the wide shoulders to the neat, trim tail.
A pet will expect to spend time with you and can be tamed to come to your hand for treats. Housing: Unlike most pigeons, the French Mondain Pigeon may enjoy a coop instead of a classic pigeon loft.
These naturally chunky birds may not be able to fly very well, and you need to assume that they will spend much of their time on the ground. One breeder suggests that each pair should have its own coop with a minimum area of 6' by 7' floor space. It need be only 6' high, although if a tallish person is going to be able to walk into the coop, you'd want that roof to be a little taller. Pigeons do bathe in water, so they should be allowed access to a shallow dog dish or similar bathing bowl to splash around in.
Since they lower the head to drink, they will need a deeper bowl for the drinking water. Diet: Coming from a background as a utility breed, the French Mondain Pigeon has been developed to thrive on a relatively simple diet. Most people start with a high-quality pigeon mix from a well-regarded source. You may also mix in quality grains such as millet, barley, wheat, whole corn, dry peas, buckwheat, oats, and so on, either from a good feed store with fast turn-over or from a health food store.
Special pellets formulated for pigeons can be used to supplement the diet, to ensure that your bird has enough vitamins and protein.
Chopped greens like kale, dandelion greens, spinach, or fresh sprouts should be offered each day. Some people offer high beta carotene foods like finely chopped carrot or papaya.
Pigeons need access to a high quality pigeon grit to help them digest the tough, uncooked grains they like to eat. A cuttlebone or another calcium source is also valuable.Forums New posts Search forums.
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Hello all. In the process of Googling, but you guys are so much better for the real answers! I have a friend that got a pair of Runts and is thinking about getting more so that he can sell unrelated birds.Turkish Tumblers. Iranian HF. Baby Pigeons. Pigeon Needs.
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White Dove Release. A wild field- pigeon of reasonably tame disposition, the Gola was easily domesticated by farmers and field workers in northern and central India. The thrifty Gola became a valuable and economical addition to each farmstead. During the daylight hours the flocks would range out gathering grain spilled from the harvest as well as wild seeds. As they returned to their roosting sheds in the evening, the Indian husbandmen would occasionally supply them with heavily salted water to drink.
This would cause the Golas to regurgitate the grain they had gathered. The keepers would gather the spilled, salty grain, wash it in fresh water to remove the salt and sun-dry it the next day for use by other animals or even for their own use. Over the centuries of their development, the Golas often varied in size and type due to cross-breeding and mixing of wild pigeons. For unknown reasons the grizzle factor and tigering pattern became more strongly fixed in this breed than in any other.
Morgan, an Englishman employed in the British India Service beforefound the Gola to be handsome as well as a prolific breeder. Around that time he imported some of these birds to Britain where he intended to introduce them to the squabbing industry. Despite their medium size, Golas produced a heavy poundage of squabs per year due to rapid and reliable reproduction. InW.
Edison Kain of New York imported breeding stock from Morgan with the same economic objective. Kain, however, was determined to grow them larger by crossing in various large squabbing breeds already found in America.
He used Carneaus, Maltese, Runts, and French Gros Mondaines to increase squab size and yearly poundage, while retaining the desired light skin and continuing the prolific nature of the breed. Some crosses had to be discarded because while the size was often increased, the other qualities were lost.
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They were prolific and their squabs were approximately one pound. Occasionally duns, reds and yellows with the same markings were found. In some areas of the United States Swiss Mondaines were crossed in producing an excellent squabbing bird, large in body and good in skin color and disposition.Forums New posts Search forums.
Rare Swiss Mondaine Pigeons. Thread starter pogoforeman Start date Jan 7, Feb 11, 26 0 22 Galliano. I have 3 extra male Swiss Mondaine I am selling these are rare large pigeons. The males I have are grizzle white and heavy in body 4 inches plus wide. They are all two and a half to three years old.
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